The fashion before the Amanda Gorman there is always light if only we’re brave enough to see it if only were brave enough to be it shirt ’90s was not my personal favorite, like that whole ’80s moment, the artificiality of fashion. It got very busy. And there was a lot of stuff: a lot of brands, and a lot of names, and a lot of things…and everything had to match. You had all that stuff all at once. And then the ’90s came and it kind of washed that away. I was so fortunate to live that experience in New York, going to places like the Odeon and living in the East Village.